Why do men seem less likely than women to show interest in the arts? Matt gathers the manliest men he knows—Anselm founder Brian Brown and Anselm artist Kory Denmark—to find out.

Image: Pair of Centaurs Fighting Cats of Prey from Hadrian's Villa, c. 130 AD, Altes Museum Berlin

THE BELIEVE TO SEE PODCAST

The podcast of the Anselm Society Arts Guild. Hosts Matt Mellema and Marcus Robinson go deep with artists about their craft, and also enjoy very serious conversations about very silly subjects. “Some things have to be believed to be seen." -Madeleine L'Engle

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